I think this should be water on the bridge right now. I really DONT CARE what went on behind closed doors before Poser's release. Nor people's opinions on such whether testers or not. Poser 5 was a mess on release, much more so than Poser 5. BUT it's been a few weeks now. One patch out another almost here. Things are beginning to look up. The only important thing left to consider is remembering this time three years or so hence for the advent of Poser 6. All other speculation and posturing and blaming and hinting is just oh so boring, petty, and self serving and won't change a thing.