Let's be honest ... Poser was never going to make it from hobbiest tool to pro level application in a single incarnation - it just wasn't going to happen. However, Poser5 is a BIG step in that direction. Let's recap where Poser is now: 1) Poser5 works well for a large number of people, there is active development in process to help resolve the issue for those with compatability problems. 2) The additional features and rendering options have brought Poser back into the pro-am category, giving them a shot at making the jump to the pro category if they play it right with development over the near to mid term future. Obviously there are some touchy compatability issues involved, and maybe that is because CL didn't have the resources to beta the product incredibly widely ... but the code clearly deos work well for a significant number of people.