Pam, this image is stunning. She's not the Barbie Doll cute that some of the P4 characters have been. She's really more what they used to call in the "old days" as a handsome woman. Actually, she's quite pretty in your render. She would like nicer with hair framing her features. I'm having trouble getting the texture map for Vickie, but Zygote in on the job trying to fix it. Can't wait until I can start using her. Melanie