I hope they get it all figured out soon. I don't really care whether it is a Carbon (OS 9 and X compatible) or just OS X version. I can run either one now. But I feel rather left out of the community, not being able to discuss the Poser 5 issues (and not being able to play with the Poser 5 goodies). And I suspect that at least 25% of the Poser community is Mad based, like me. - JimX