OK, the thread isn't the only thing which has been massacred. We have Jim's lime green horse of a different color. :shudder: In my files is a blue Cinderella dress and a wig with braids, all inside out and all silly-looking when added to Posette. (There are other such files, but those sprang immediately to mind.) I knew that there was something about normals, and put them to the side in the "deal with later" memory stack. Let's deal with them now. To fix the dress, I should export it from Poser with no normals, import it in UVMapper and fix normals? Export it again? Can one of you lay this out step-by-step for me? Thanks! Carolly