What's funny is that I would have pre-ordered Poser 5 Mac but not after seeing what happened on the PC side. I'm going to wait until a Mac user tells me it's worth getting. Not only that but Steve's comment about Appple sure didn't leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling about CL's ability to produce a useable version for OSX. Steve also didn't do CL any favors by posting mis-leading infromation (the problem is Poser's legacey code not OSX) so that now whenever this comes up, we get PC people (who know nothing about the Mac) parroting his comments. For a person like me that has unequivocally supported Poser for almost 8 years I find this rather sad.