kblade: It's not just big bugs that are the problem with P5. I said in an earlier thread that, even if I didn't have problems, I'd still be pissed. This is because the core P4 program is old and, IMO, unstable...its interface is outdated and klunky...and they didn't even fix the old bugs fer cryin' out loud! They promised us a "brand new program," "built from the ground up." So we waited and waited and waited. "It'll be ready when it's ready," we were told. And I don't remember any big push to get P5 out. Hell, if someone even asked, "Any news on P5?" he got jumped on by members with "be patient!" "Give them time, we don't want another P4 fiasco," "They're doing it right this time," etc. Finally, with much hoop-dee-rah and fanfare, they trotted out the same old beaten down horse with a pretty, new blanket and sadle thrown over it.