JohnRender...you are right...and they are. If you've read my posts, and a few others willing to speak up..you know I was pretty vocal about the bugs....' Let me say, with this newest patch release...yes a beta...and I quite frankly don't like that approach either...but so far I have a working copy of Poser5...which I didn't before....I haven't had a chance to push it yet, so perhaps some stuff will pop up, such as the non-existant spotlights....but overall their work seems to be progressing.. No excuses for the original fiasco, but CL is getting things in order. Not too sure what I think about this beta patch...although CL is surely not the first company to do this. It does give the patch more exposure prior to the official release...and no one is forced to download it...the option is there to wait---or you can help them out. If you're a Poser fan, I think helping is a nice thing to do, although we shouldn't have to...contradictory ???

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