shadowdragonlord - I use a 1.7AMD with 1Gb (& Radeon 64Mb). I hear what you say about great landscapes, and I've seen a lot of excellent stuff created with Bryce, but I've still never seen any landscape that looks remotely like a photo! Mike's landscapes are great, for instance, and Hobbit's are out of this world, but nobody would ever look at them and ask if they are real (as, of course, I'm sure the artists intend!) But point me in the direction of a photorealistic Bryce render and I'll eat my words! :) Or any render, come to that (oh, apart from simple Terragen distant hills, which can sometimes be convincing)! Having said that, there is a picture of an old car in an overgrown garage that was done for a Max 5 demo that is almost impossible to tell to be a render. I'll check out the URL when I've got time - it is absolutely astonishing.