Hi Again, Well, you have showed me that it CAN be done. Now, I just have to get learning all that lighting and I guess, put up with enormous render times. (17 hours??) All your images are along the lines of what I was thinking, so now I have, along with your inspiration, some homework to do! I'm running a G4 867 MHZ single processor MAC. I don't want to open the door of MAC vs. PC, so let's not go there. The G4 is what I have and it works, and it's what I have to work with. I have no complaints about it. (Except of course, that there are a lot more programs for Windows than MAC, but Windows is a larger user base, so that makes sense.) It seems to me from what I am reading that it comes down to lighting? If I understand you all correctly, it is better to use a LOT of lights, strategically placed, rather than depend on the sky lighting? Texture mapping is also an important issue (the higher res the texture map, the better?) Well, I have so much to learn! And to try out! Thanks for all you input and ideas. You ALWAYS come through and answer my questions. Huge render times, huh? Sigh. Still, it's way better than it used to be, when we only had 256 colors to use. Thanks again for all your input. I only hope that COREL is watching this forum and seeing all that you have made Bryce do. You take it way beyond anything hinted at in the manuals.