Hi Sandoppe, I bought Poser5 and have NOT been happy at all with it. I do have it installed, only because, Maybe??????????they will create something that is/will only work with it, and it will be, one of those things, that I just have to have, but other than that.......???? I still use ONLY Poser4, and have no regrets in buying version5, as I am confident, that someday, they will have it together. Until then, I would have to say, You aren't missing "Nothing"! There will be those, that say different, but for me, I am perfectly content with Poser4. I had loads of Problems with Vue4, before the patches, and I don't relish the fact on doing that again, with Poser5 or anything else for the matter. Genny