Well, I used the wind engine to blow the flames to the side a little. It looks acceptable as long as you don't get carried away :-) I'm not that deep into P5 yet to do animations (other than a test with the walk designer). The settings for the fiery hair are: Hair lenght .5 variance .3 No. of Hairs 30 tip width 1 root width 30 (! That's the trick) clumpiness 0.5 kink strength 10 kink scale 100 kink delay 0.3 verts 30 Materials - I know you know ;-) red and yellow transparency 0.95 edge 0.8 falloff 0.6 (yep, that darn value:) alternate diffuse: color node with red and yellow add a little noise into the color settings and voil a small but fast rendering fire! (Willy)