I've never been--I thought it had shut down anyhow--where do you find it?? Is there a forum or do I have to go there through the Brycetalk link in my prog (which I deleted when I reformatted--since I never went). Somewhere I had gotten the impression that it wasn't used--guess I was wrong. I'd love to have a bigger Bryce community. As I've said a number of times, the Delphi Bryce forum is fairly large but a royal pain to traverse so I don't participate. Diane B