In my humble opinion, Poser did not become interesting at all until Victoria and Mike hit the scene. It was a symbiotic relationship. I don't approve at all of the way in which DAZ has been effectively pushed aside by CL now. From my very small, very personal perspective, DAZ has stood beside the 3D community all along, surprising and delighting us with one wonderful product after another, one gift after another. How many days have been brightened for all of us by Mystery Models, the Platinum Club, etc? I have not had this much fun since I was a little girl. I know it's just business to them, but they do it in a way that makes customers happy. So more power to them. Curious Labs, on the other hand, does not really give me the same warm fuzzy feeling inside. Not anymore. Off the top of my head I can think of a lot of things that "rubbed me the wrong way" about the release of Poser 5: the registration scheme, the EULA, the fact that there are no new animals in Poser 5 and the buggy program itself all add up to a disappointing shopping experience. I am, however, grateful to CL for having made Poser 4 the great program it is. This way, I can stick with it until something better comes along.