If it came down to choosing between CL and DAZ, I wonder which companiy people would turn to for their main/only software poser application? I'll be honest. I'd go with Daz in a heartbeat. Why? Every time I've had a problem with Daz, they've gone out of their way to make it right. When I've had problems with Curious Labs, I've been on my own. Daz has wonderful people who go the extra mile to help. CL has people who tell their customers "you're on your own." Daz provides great products that work out of the box. Curious Labs... well, I think this one goes without saying. With Daz, I trust them enough to buy their program on first release if it looks like something that will help me. I know from previous experience that if it doesn't work, they'll make it right. Judging from that conglomeration of bugs I fight with every day (P4!), CL doesn't have that track record. And there's the matter of honesty. Curious Labs has lied too much; I don't trust them anymore. For example, they've been working exclusively on Poser for three years (so Avatar Lab just popped out of someone's ass one afternoon and they decided to sell it?). Even if they had the best of intentions when they made their statements, there's just been too many promises that went unfulfilled.