Last I knew, CL didn't own this site. The mods may have taken it on themselves to either move it, or delete it. I would hope you are talking about the thread that got moved to the OT forum and not one that was deleted. Technically, the thread about DAZ's new program isn't about Poser. And yet it is. As far as CL revealing the negotiations, I would hope that they (CL and DAZ) wouldn't reveal it. To me then, I would feel like I couldn't trust them. If a company reveals private negotiations, what else are they willing to reveal? Your address and phone number? Your credit card number? It's a matter of privacy. In some ways, CL and DAZ have already revealed too much. Hopefully both will learn from this. For myself, I am on the fence with both of them as to trust.