Pete You do get the plug-ins for those four high-end applications I mentioned along with the mag version. The trouble is, they have to go in the plug-ins folder of those applications, so then you can import an X-frog model from within 3DS Max, C4D, Lightwave and Maya. It doesn't appear to mean that you can export a 3ds file just by having that plug-in, you need to have 3d studio max itself. If you've got one of those apps I'm sure it will work fine. Unfortunately I don't so I haven't yet found a way of exporting anything. Mike