I hate standing in lines but I would to get the program raz mentioned. Can't wait 'til it's out. I don't want to start a "Vue vs Bryce" debate but, if you spend a lot of time trying to get Poser scenes into Bryce, the "sidegrade" cost of Vue4 would be more than worth your while...if you value your time. ....and Vue is better anyway. (ducks and runs)