A few thoughts... 1) I doubt seriously Cl could enforce any licensing on the Poser file formats. They contain no code and require no licensable algorithms to read and format. 2) DAZ's "poser killer" application is not even vapor at this point. There is no hard information at all and it doesn't look like there will be any in the future. 3) Clearly, DAZ's figures are of high quality, and they may well have helped create the Poser aftermarket - but it no longer NEEDS them... they are good vendors, but if the folded tomorrow someone would eventually take their place. Obviously it would be better not to have to:) 4) Competition is good :) 5) Face room incompatability with existing Poser figures is >NOT A BUG<. All the ranting in the world will not make it so. It is a fundementally different morph database with specific characteristics. 6) There is NO WAY I would think it useful for the community to pony up 120K to make Mike/Vicky face room compatible. Heck, I don't even need the face room that bad :)