Dots. It's definitely dots. Just ask Pete. But I think it has more to do with the fact that there are so many messages that the moderators can't read them all (they do have other lives, afterall) and maybe until someone on the list brings a thread to their attention, they don't notice a thread has gone off track. That's taking a mighty high road, which won't be appreciated, but that could be part of it (not the whole...I have no idea what politics are involved here). I realize that doesn't make anyone happy, but, when a thread is moved or locked, it may very well be a non-moderator that caused its journey or caused the thread to be shut down. I asked a moderator and that's what they told me. I'm not into conspiracy theories so I'm taking them at their word. Of course I could just be kissing up to Spike because I'm hoping he looks like James Marsters. :)