Hell, I wish Zygote WOULD make some uglier models. What is this, the friggin' MASTER RACE in 3D? Where are the fat guys, the old folks, etc.? I remember long ago good-naturedly ragging Steve Cooper about the fact that Poser 3 was "3-D Honky Software", and sure enough, when P4 came out, there were ethnic variations. I'm glad he listened to THAT suggestion, rather than the one from the guy who wrote to him requesting that Poser 4 add genitalia to the animals...(I swear, that's a true story). But they're still all candidates for the cover of Vogue, except for that goddamn dorky man; HE could use some upgrading in the looks department...Keee-Rist, what a frigging RETARD...but other than his face, still a guy with big pecs and six-pack abs. I personally know DAMN FEW people who are perfect physical specimens; I'm built like a goddamn silverback gorilla. I'm sure some of you are quite happy with Dorkus and Posette, and Eve, and their mutant sister Victoria. But I feel LIMITED in what I can depict using Poser. I'd LOVE to have a nasty old hag, or a fat guy smoking a cigar. Zygote created some of these kinds of characters for Poser3. There was a fat guy, but he had damn few MTs in his face, and of course since this was pre-conforming-clothes, all he had to wear was this ugly polo shirt. There was an old guy, too, but again, few face MTs, and you were stuck with the clothes it came with. Unfortunately, this CD evidently never caught on, and there have NEVER been MTs made for them. I, unfortunately, lack the talent to create them myself. Hey Zygote, if you're feeling generous, why not make these old unpopular models free for the download?