hehe.. I think Pamela Anderson is kinda on the cheap (lookin') side too... But she ain't famous for her actin'... I just used her as an example of a sexy babe..... I appreciate some people think she's (Victoria) is ugly and some think she's stunning..Some negative comments have in fact been very humorous.. lol I like a controversial figure myself but then I've always been considered off beat and different.. I'm sure whoever created Venus de Milo thought she was beautiful as probably did the artist who created Victoria.. We don't know how the Greeks responded to Venus (we're not even sure who created her) but we do know traditionally the Greeks de-emphasized the noses of their statues.. Venus however is different from ancient Greek art for her nose is very ethic and not like the classical Greek art... Who knows maybe she was as controversial as Victoria.. I don't like that Tooth paste ad beauty myself, men or women.. Preferring a person with character in the face or body.. I fear some folks are buying her thinking they will be left out, but I still don't think she's for everyone.. I'm picky about what I buy and I wouldn't have bought her for any other reason than I like her.. I've seen a lot of renders in the gallery of characters people have morphed that I thought was rather unappealing, BUT I looked at the over all image and found the pic to be rather beautiful... Member Snuffe comes to mind too.. He's a 2D artist who makes very ugly characters but they are so beautiful at the same time.. I really love his art.. It's all a matter taste and that's cool.. I'm sure Zygote didn't put out a model saying "let's do an ugly chick this time" snickersnicker* Probably more like "let's get away from the Barbie Doll image this time" .. Who knows.. Just guessing here... =) I've heard she's ugly since she came out so that's not new to me and I really don't care.. What I was concerned about is what did people consider beautiful in a woman?.. What makes a woman beautiful physical and otherwise?.. Thanks Jack for answering that.. =) .. It's been interesting and some what entertaining to read some of the men responses to Vicky...Victoria is only a 3D mesh for garsh sakes, but it's been interesting none the less... =) Maybe this is the Poser Dork's revenge.. hehe