i agree with you all. the Vue gallery may not be the most popular, but it sure is one of the best to browse. It's always good to see some quality in people's work, i've had too much of people just posting a stupid nude model just because they bought it and wanted to see how it looks even if there's not much meaning in a picture made in Vue, at least the quality of the graphics is good heheh Vue and Bryce have been my two favourites for some time now Bryce because of how incredibly simple it is to use, and Vue because of the realism it can achieve though i can't claim to do much with either, there are people who can do a heck of a lot with these programs and i guess that's what this thread is all about a big congradulations to everyone who's managed to master these programs and entertain us with their work, as well as those still striving for mastery