I just wish there was a separate forum for Poser 5 users (as was suggested a while back by someone with more foresight than me). Before 5 was released, it was easy to come here and just read about ways people use the software, helpful hints, questions etc etc - USEFUL stuff. Now it takes an age to wade through all the Poser 5 complaints, rebuttals, speculations, first tries in the material room and other such stuff. None of it interests me as a Poser 4 user. If and when I decide to upgrade (?) to 5 then I'll go looking through all these threads, but until then I just wish they were somewhere else. Sorry, just a personal opinion.