Brent, it was the other way around. DAZ wanted to make their character's Poser 5 Face Room ready. Curious Labs told DAZ they wanted 30k ( for each character) to make Michael and Victoria Face Room ready. It is my personal belief that Curious Labs set the price so high so that DAZ would purposely reject the "proposed" offer, believing that their (CL) derivitive(sp?) characters: DON & JUDY could beat DAZ's Michael and Victoria characters. Jack