This morning I got an email from Curious Labs letting me know that the price of Poser 5 has been reduced. I'm glad to know that pre-ordering the upgrade from Poser 4 to 5 got me the lowest price possible. Or at least I would be if it had gotten me the lowest price. As it is, I'm not amused. Poser 5 was released with too many bugs. The first service pack helped but not enough. To have to put the second service pack into a public beta within 6 or 7 weeks of the product being released is insane. I don't expect any piece of software to be perfect but the bugs in Poser 5 makes it a pain to work with. If/when DAZ comes out with a competing product to Poser, I'll probably buy it. I've been much happier with DAZ than with Curious Labs.