Poser 5 was the biggest waste of money for me this year. At the time I bought it the exchange rate was low (still is) so it ended up costing me $830. Nice huh. Now to top it off I could have saved myself some money if I hadn't pre-ordered rolls eyes Curious Labs will never, ever get another cent of my money. This on top of the whole EULA issue really shows how far they have moved from the realm of sensible. If Daz bring out a stable program in which I can use my exisiting characters (and I don't give a rats ass if I can use pz3), and get a better render than Poser 4, they will get my complete support. Hell, I'll make content for them if they want. Poser 5 is a joke, just not a very funny one. ~Oh crap, I think I just tagged this thread~ snicker