In regards to Don, Judy, and their brood, I suppose the biggest dissapointment I had with them is that they don't have the body morphability of Vicky or Mike. With the latter, you can make them look like anyone you have ever met or imagined. I'm a big guy and I like to use large looking people in my pictures. With Judy and Don you can have them convincingly thin or convincingly muscular--not convincingly heavy though. Most of the people I know and see aren't all fit and trim. Although while I was happy that the new P5 children have a variety of clothes they can wear (in P4 they were either naked or wearing summer attire), I was unhappy that it isn't any easier to get clothes to fit morphed figures (no one seems to really understand the cloth room dynamics yet) and if I did understand it it still is far from easy. I agree with the comments above that I expected improved figures to be included with greater ease of use. P5, to me a 3D hobbiest, is a much more difficult program to use than it's predasessor. I will have to wait and see if I can afford the Daz application when it finally arrives, but if it is easier and fits within my budget I will buy it. I guess the bottom line to a lot of us who don't have deep pockets, is whether or not the app. will have those afforementioned qualities without having to resort to buying a ton of add ons. P5 has made a lot of the add on's already purchased obsolete (The Tailor, python scripts, etc.), unless I go back to using them with P4. My Poser budget is shot for the year. We'll have to wait and see what happens.