...Just to itterate...I'm not suggesting everyone is that way here...but this thread sucks with attitude...lately a lot of forums seem to suck with attitude...bad attitude...and I am sad that this attitude seems to come from too often from some of those that should be a LOT more respectable and thankful for their position and the clairvoyance they have with their particular community...rather than try to make their membership sound like a bunch hoohaaw's that just come to yank their jollies or what pocket change they may be worth maybe a very signifigant fact is too much forgotten in the highbrow moments...'MEMBERS mean EXISTENCE'......sustenance.....'members' make a community what it is...