In this thread and others I have repeatedly read comments referring to a controversy between CL and DAZ, that they should work together, that they are being stubborn brats, etc. Well I'm sorry but I just don't understand. As far as I can tell the only major stumbling block is that DAZ fears that the P5 EULA may relieve them of those rights normally due to a content producer- namely, ownership of products they may develop. I find it difficult to think of that as a childish or petty response from DAZ. Frankly, it looks like the ball is in CL's court. Until CL corrects the EULA problem it seems there is little DAZ can do to in terms of supporting P5. - Jack