"We have continuing and open discussions with DAZ. We'd like to see compatible formats and complementary features in all models and applications produced by both companies -- and everyone else. I believe DAZ would like that as well. There is plenty of room for everyone to have the tools and models they want to use to create their artwork. We are not choosing to shut DAZ out of Poser 5. We have offered to clarify any EULA problems they may have. If they want to support Poser 5, we're more than happy to support them on it -- even if they are writing software as well. We work to support 3DMax and Lightwave and Cinema4D and Maya (yes we have more work to do on these to bring them up to the level of Poser 5 -- we know and we ARE working on it). And yes, we are working on a Mac OSX as well." Well, if there was any doubt, I guess the Mac users now know where they are on the totem pole. Hey! Ow! You're standing on my head!