{What it all comes down to is that instead of using the 3 years to recode Poser from the ground up...} Don't forget, that during that "3 years", CL developed and released Avatar Labs, which was very well-received by the Adobe Atmosphere users... all 10 of them agreed that it was a great product! {This morning I got an email from Curious Labs letting me know that the price of Poser 5 has been reduced. } What?? I paid full price for a buggy piece of software and NOW, if I had waited, I could have paid less! I am liking CL less and less every day! Maybe we should all complain (louder) to egi/sys, CL's parent company. Or sell the stock short- the way CL is treating its core audience/ market, I don't think they're going to be around too much longer {I am willing to bet that many of CL's customers will think twice before ever "PreOrdering" a product from that company ever again.} Um, Jack, I think that should be "...customers will think twice before ever ORDERING a product from [CL] again." As for DAZ not having a copy of P5, I can believe it. I've heard rumors that they're hiring people to write "tutorials" for P5. That way, the "writers" use the program, figure out how it works, find all the bugs, and report back to DAZ. And DAZ themselves never touches the P5 program. {We hope to bring [Content Paradise] live very soon} Yes, thanks, for the update Larry. Thank you for telling us that things that should have worked with the first release of P5 (Content Paradise, Lightwave/ Vue/ 3D Max plug-ins, P5 for Mac) are coming "soon". No approximate release date, no estimated date, but "soon". You do know that "soon" should have meant September (or even October). Now, we are approaching November (and 2 months after the release of P5) and these features (including "Content Paraside", a major "feature" listed on the Poser 5 box!) will be ready "soon"?? Okay, whatever. I'll believe it when I see it. And, like the SR2 beta, will you be needing people to pay you to be beta-testers for these features? And, thank you Larry, for addressing our concerns over the price reduction in P5. From all of us pre-ordering people (who can't get a refund for the difference), thank you. There's nothing like paying full price for something, and then, 8 weeks later, see it go on sale. (For everyone else, that was meant as sarcasm- Larry never said a word about this issue.)