"Respect on both sides would help...I know everyone is upset and has gotten an emotional investment in making their point, but I'm not sure it's solving any problems to be casting dispersions against each other." Dialyn you are correct but we would also expect the moderators to be respectful in return. This thread began as an honest and respectful question to the moderators. It was answered with what is perceived to be a lie. Spike:"We try to keep the software forums about learning the software. When a thread is about something other than learning, we move it." For those of us who have been around for a long time we know this answer can't possibly be the truth. If it were true then the threads I posted above would have been moved as they are definitely off topic for the Poser forum and not about learning. Lying and patronizing are not respectful. This was made further obvious by Jeffh's response: "There's not enough time in a day to move all the crap I'd like to. I have to break it down to which threads have the biggest moron-factor going on and boot those. You seem to have alot of free time, start compiling a list of OT threads and maybe I'll get to it some day. -JH." Referring to a moron-factor (and nope there is no smiley face there) and implying that others do his work and then maybe he'll get to it some day is also offensive and rude. - Certainly not respectful and most definitely not an answer. And ScottA:"The older wiser members appreciate your efforts more than the newbies that blow in here and act as if they know it all." Isn't actually true - the ones who seem to think the rude behaviour and refusal to answer a straight forward question is ok - are the newbies. As for dragging anyone down to alevel - may I never be on a level so low that I feel that a direct, honest answer is the wrong step to take when dealing with anyone who has approached in a respectful and honestly enquiring manner.

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