"if CL goes under, my use of Poser ends. If DAZ goes under, my future pleasure of using their product ends as well." So, does this mean the program and all the products you already have stops working completely and you'll never be able to use what you already have? The company has to be in existance for that stuff to continue working? I think not. Whether CL or DAZ should fail doesn't mean 3D rendering or the existing Poser programs will cease to work. This is a hobby for most of us and not a way of life. Alot of people around here make me think they can't exist without Poser. It's almost like they live, eat, and sleep soley for Poser. You did have a life before you got involved in this media. I know I did and still do. This is a HOBBY for me and not my life. If either of the 2 companies prosper or fail, I still have the products I've purchased and they, along with the program, will still be useable and I won't die because one, the other, or both companies failed if it came to that.