Poser 5 was never the issue - at least until DAZ made it the issue The assumption that poser 5 was the issue was taken from your thread title. Sorry if that assumption was wrong but it's kind of misleading to read:- P5: DAZ/Platinum club - bad for Poser 5 users? Where the thread is labelled P5: being poser 5 specific, and Poser 5 users at the end. Only to find out that you have a problem with a "general" poser problem using the hair. This is not the implication given. My apologies for misunderstanding you but it's an easy thing to do lately with so much Daz or Curious Labs bashing going on. :)