IB seems like you cant afford a copy of P5. Let me know I will purchase one for you. You seem to make a lot of comments with out knowing. Oh by the way I noticed you mentioned Messiah in one post as an alternative to Poser. Surely you did not mean that. Hey what ya drinking tonight? Its becks here! Save me a shot of what your drinking. If there is a worm in the bottle I have dibs on it. Ron