I have a copy of Poser 5, thank you. And I make a lot of comments knowing precisely what I'm talking about. And what I'm basing them on - including reading the beta froum here. I'm just choosing to not be a part of the "CuriousLabs $349 Beta Test For Us Club". I can - and will periodically ask them pointed questions, and/or point out areas where they seem to be ummm... less than consistent. Again, you dislike that? Your choice - your problem. By the way... precisely which part of "Stiff off" were you translating as "Gee, let's go have a brew and be buds?" snicker

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