More like a Curious Labs affiliate actually Ironbear, is it Mr. White? Or have you forgotten that you are identified in this forum as a "friend of many years" by Curious Labs. Shame really, you've given a very bad impression with your little hissy fit there. Never mind, it's understandable that you'd be "protective" towards your friends. Oh, and in case anyone is interested. Here he is... http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=491680 Shame, I would have thought someone with their own business would have been more... polite and inventive rather than behaving like any other common forum weasel. I guess not. Good luck with your business Quintin, with friends like you Curious really doesn't need enemies.