Hey.....Circle is in the house. Man for awhile there I felt I was negotiating a corporate merger. I'm glad both Dan and Larry showed up when they did; a testament to their courage and intelligence. We all did are part and hopefully the effort will payoff. Everyone will come away stronger when this EULA is finally dealt with and it will be dealt with(I'm relentless). Its too important for all players: the community, DAZ, especially CL and all third party developers. They need to be represented in all of this too. Then and only then will we have a strong alliance that will drive this thing called Poser, forward again. My next challange is to procure a special area on this site geared especially to kids/teens as a place to share and learn about 3D art. As you know I was originally turned down by admin. here but again I'm relentless. When I believe in an idea, I push until it goes through. If you feel like helping push, I could use the extra help. I am corresponding with Larry from CL on this and I beleive he will see the benefit in such an area as well. If he's on board and possibly DAZ then I think Renderosity will come around to the idea too.