middleast,don't think you'll have much luck finding demo versions of those two, as they'er a bit dated now. But the full version of LE came with many printers,scanners, and cameras...ask people around you. In your case a better thing to do, is to get the demo of PaintShopPro7(found at Jasc.com).PSP7 has features you won't find until you get to Photoshop6/7,but will run on very small systems.Very nice and helpful forum here at Renderosity for this program as well.