ScottA...that's what i did. that's why i'm here. i wanted the link. From: "Poppi" To: admin@renderosity.com, LadySM....I've been working alot, and using rhino in my free time. i try and read the threads of interest, here, lately, but am not as vocal, anymore. thanks, ib. for a change, i am going to do it the correct way, and im an admin about my queries and concerns...and just sending to:admin@renderosity.com is obviously not working.