btw: back in p4, you could switch to the poser 2 interface (po2). back in the old days, you couldn't pose anything unless you were in pose mode, so not being in pose mode was handy for when you wanted to be grabbing things but not moving them. (also the posing controls worked better, as i recall. made sense as to dragging along or across the body part axis whereby you could control the direction of the rotation.) those days are gone, though, in p5.