I look in this way, what is a basic poser ? P4 ? I don't use near 90% of the modles that come with P4. So do they have a poser that with only a few modles? And I don't think everyone will use wind, reflection , hair or many other things in every render, so every of these becoming a plugin? I do think that the face room is not offent use, I still don't know how to make a face that I want, but if it is a plugin, how many people will buy it? May be the small number of demand will make CL stop developing that. A customizable Poser 5 is really a good idea, not just poser , but I think all software should be that too. But everyone has a difernet idea, it is really hard to findout what is the basic.