Well, I haven't even installed it yet, and won't until I get my new machine, but I certainly don't regret buying it. 270 Euros? Hey, I've lost more running for a bus, as we say in Scotland. Well... not quite, but you know what I mean. It's less than the money I spend on film for a half-day photo shoot. I know it's all relative, but that's my take on it. I'm convinced that the Poser 5 griping will peter out within the next couple of months and we'll start seeing the full possibilities of this program. I'm not saying people are wrong to complain when an app doesn't work, but at least CL are going hell-for-leather to resolve the problems. I'll install when I have a new computer, when the bugs are finally squashed, and when my current project is safely finished and up for sale. mac