now there is another option for ya..Thanks Poppi,I completely forgot about the various converters. I used to use 3DExplorer from Right Hemisphers but the free version isn't available any more IIRC. Fred Be mindfull that conversions will likely effect the"Movable Elevator and Doors" depending on if the groups are retained during conversion.But I would not expect them to behave as expected in Poser after converting it. Tom

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