I fully agree about obnoxious overuse of Flash at so many sites, but DAZ' use is discreet and tasteful. There are no bright orange epilepsy-inducing flashing banners with cute little anime monster cars racing across the screen while a bad MIDI file of the theme from "Ms. PacMan" plays. ;-) There are some ad banners that "rotate" at reasonable intervals, but that's it, as I recall. Just curious (because I really don't know,) what's the objection to XML? I'm told it's here to stay and take over, and that I should code my HTML to account for it.