So, you would be of a mind that the graphire was better then? Can't say I disagree. Since I first got my Wacom, I've had occasional problems, the most persistent of which is about once a month or so, on three different machines, I've had to delete the "wacom.dat" file. But outside of this nagging kinds of stuff, admittedly sporadic, and long used to, it's been just great. I don't draw on the PC as much as I used to do with the mouse on my Amiga 2000 - weird I know - because I still like to do it the pencil/pen and ink on paper way - but I really am crazy about the stylus and tablet otherwise. Will be looking into the graphire though, just had a small windfall, so what the hey? Thank you. Larry F