great, a positive thread about Poser 5, there has been so much doom and gloom posted about Poser 5 that I was beginning to think that I had a different version of Poser 5 on my PC, because mine ran well from day 1 as well and it just gets better with each service release. I hear what the "Pro" guy's are saying though and they need to have plug-ins for max, maya, cinema etc before they are going to start using Poser 5 seriously, so hopefully CL are still working on the plug-ins and will release them quickly,and then perhaps a few more people will start to view Poser 5 positively. I certainly hope so anyway. Graham