Actually jnmoore I know some 20 year olds who would like to look like her...=) I don't think she looks so old as she does hard... I've noticed with Vicky that textures have a strong effect on her much more than the P4NW, from my point of view... I've notice jschoen's elf has a very slim face yet looks very young .... I don't know what textures he's using for this elf but it appears soft in color ... Also if you'll notice 15 year old models are piled with makeup to make them appear older looking... I'd try what rtamesis suggest and (in my opinion) tone down the texture or use a softer one perhaps.. It might help..