Questor, 'Fair comment is perfectly popular provided fair criticism is also allowed' Well, it may be my imagination, but I've seen plenty of criticism (a lot of it understandable), and up until recently, not a lot of praise. Orio's was one of the few posts to date that took the other point of view.... and look what happened to the thread! 'So far though, most praise has included a slam against everyone who isn't drooling' I'm sorry, but I can't agree with that statement at all. People who have praised poser just didn't have the problems other people had, but I hardly think that can be considered slamming, and I haven't seen much that I would class as slamming. 'So, don't you think, Mac, that you've been a little unfair on the other, rational, non arguing, non accusatory, gutter free contributors to this thread?' Nope, I don't! This thread went off-topic, in my opinion, NOT with sbertram, but with Cyberstretch's reply (#14), which, to me, seemed like a nasty swipe at sbertram that had nothing whatsoever to do with his post. After that, the thread just degenerated. I'm sure I'll be taken to task for this, but I'm not trying to be nasty. Just saying it how I see it. If others don't agree... well, it's a free world and anyone can post their opinions of me here if they want to. I'm always prepared to listen to anyone, like yourself, who puts forward a civil and honest opinion. I may not AGREE with it, but that's life I guess. We can still all get along together anyway. I mean, we ARE adults, right? mac